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Blood4u
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| Squee Spleen and Spoon - Gobin techies
 Pros and cons: | Spoiler: | | | Pros:-very high spell dmg
-ambusher and lucky killer
-remote stunner
-the most imba terorist spell "DO NOT RUN WE ARE YOUR FRIENDS  "
-good at defending base and pushing towers
-can deny itself
Cons:-low normal dmg
-almost imp to deny or make last hit creeps
-usless in team fights
-useless against gem carry + ranged
-often feeds if enemy teams has disable/stun/silence
-rather low mana pool |
Early game:
| Spoiler: | | | Starting items:
Set A(being a kamikaze )
9X and 1X
Set B(being an uber pusher )
5X and 
Skills wich u need to build (in that exact order):
Set A
  
Set B
How to act in early game:
Set A
As you saw in the guide u got only consumable items so the way of playng techies kamikaze and bomb deployer is this way:
- firstly if the mode is ap choose him very if its ar buy even more claritys fast buy the requested items and tp on lower or upper lane rush to your bombing spot and mine it while mining use continusly clarity (remeber not to be seen by the enemy as u will not get the fb this way or any other kill)
- secondly if u take the spells in that order by level 5 u can make fb and even double kill method: go place a mine on random place when the other team is pushing(remeber to let them see you) than when they have the fog of war in that palce go and place the second bomb there this way the other team wil think that the bombing spot is there (dont put the bombs on the bombing spot,and try puting the bombs on the way to runes ) as u place the min you are in the fog of war better palce it as maybe they see you but u can choose not to,now u are either lane up or down go round the trees and when oming from b place exactly on the mid-right a bomb and go straight for the other 2 enemys go suciding on the int/agi with lower hp,u can try even str if hes injured.You wil get 100% 1 kill maybe 2. Even if you sucide and they dont die they make the fatal mistake to run b home into your last put bomb
- now in the end at level 7 try buyng 2-3 tp scrools and go for the other lane -mid start puting some bombs on your sec bombing site but dont waste all the mana keep enough for sucide go from behind and go straight sucide no need of last bomb put again because u deal an imense 1550 full dmg on impact no hero on level 7 can exced 1200-1300 hp (1000 or more usualy str have stil they die)after this try the last lane and use the same method but before going onto the kills reinforce your second bomb site
- now after the third revival u can still try this method(100% will work for like 4-5 minutes after your third death try focsuing int or agi if u want to kill again) but u are lacking in experience go finish your second boming site than tp to a lonely lane
Set B
As you saw in the guide u got 1 soby mask and 5 claritys.Why?Cause buyng 2 much claritys wil be a waste for what u need to do and the soby mask will do great at mana regen method of playng as a uber pusher:
- firstlly go and try creep blocking and wait the other creeps at your tower when the fight begins watch for half hp enemy creeps(at least 2 or 3 at the same time) plant a fast bomb and run away after the short delay the creeps wil die and ul gain gold remeber using clarytys and not being hit by enemy heroes escpecially ranged,repeat this method by doing so you will already push and gain lane control if the ohter lanes has 2 melle the lanes is 100% yours
- repeat this method until u got money to make arcane boots(u can buy boots faster than gem better for what u need to do)now having arcane boots or normal(with 1-2 cclaritys potions) use this method:plant a bomb on the enemy creeps when pushing near the enmy tower plant a land mine near the tower(stick it to the tower if possible to maximize the dmg) this way the tower will be hit by a massive dmg repeat the actiion 4-5 times and the tower has red hp or already dead be careful to be able to take th tower and not letting the enemy deny it
- always remeber from level 4 to put statis traps into the places where the enemy can gang you this way ul see him coming and get stuned 3 sec giving you time to run wih your ally
- in this set i prefer not to make bombing sites with techies as you will lose your push rushing capability
Notes for both sets:
- remember if u are pushing or being ganked somewhere use the kamikaze spell on the ground below you to kill yourself and let the enemy suffer
- using kamikaze spell will half your respawn time
- remeber use kamikaze when you see the enmy coming for you and know u got no other option as if the enemy comes closer he can stuns/disable/silence you so kill you
Goals before early game ends:
Set A
 i prefer this boots as giving you mobility and silence travel to your bombing spots if u think u dont have enough mana go for  after boots get started on making 
- finish both bombing sites
Set B
make as you push a solo lane u dont need moblity get and even  if u can plus always carry 1 teleport scrool with you i will tell you why in midlle gameplay
- get the first enemy lane tower
Special note for set A:
-you can use eul scepter ofensivly using it on an injured int to get closer to him to kamikaze is great
-now a rather unusual style of killing.Method:-if u cant reinforce your boming site as you have been spoted by the enemy try injuring the enemy a little with some bombs ,you cant go round the trees and kill him because he will run as the first method wont work so do this smal thing:Ask him a shitty thing EX :do you want more?,Like my bombs :d ,Geting bombarded ?, etc. As you finish the question on ALL go for him he will be toattentive at what your wrote or will try to write back so put 1 bomb and suicide if he has 2 much hp and u think u cant get him directly with kamikaz if not just kamikzae and laugh in his face :D:D
Special note for set B:
-WTH KAELINS DAGGER ON TECHIES ? You ARE MAD,GO SEE A DOCTOR.
-actualy im not mad and taking kaelins dagger on techies is a great choice as techies doesnt have a life-saving rather an Osama Bin Laden Style.So method of using:-use your ultimate on tree area and other places to reveal the dark fog of war from there (to explore the area in simly terms) when you see someone coming from b or ganking go near tress use eul sceter if u have been hit by a spell or atk after the eul ends qucky use kaelin on trees and than using the tp scrool go b home and laugh in the face of your enemy
-Ok your not mad but i still dont get it why waste 2 item slots just for surviving ?
-Simply u need to have the most gold and be the highest level.Because when a teamfight starts you are usless so better keep pushing lane,if ure the highset and most gold owner than you can destroy 2 tower and posibly rax in 1 team fight |
Middle game:
| Spoiler: | | | Skills wich u need to take in middle game(in that exact order):
Set A
Set B
How to act in middle game:
Set A
- you have got a tons of kill but your momentum on fire is gone,you can no longer kill by suicide so from middle game you are focusing on makeing another 2 bombing sites using your ultimate aswell.
- at this time the enemy team wil start making 3-5 heroe pushes use boots of travel to fastly travel from tower to tower and reinforce them for lasting with 5-20 min longer ,
- the new bombing sites should always be on the way that the enemy team usually runs home so youl be able to kill injured targets
Set B
- by this time you need to have the most gold in the game and having mana regen items to suprot your pushing capabylyty,
- rember you need to push only your lane and stay there as long as you can,by doing so you will force your enemy to either focus on defending the specific lane
- coordonate with your team on sending them on the top/bot lane against the lane you are so the enemy wil divide and 1 lane wil die 100%
- rember do not rush a lane until kaelins is finished at last so you nevewr die
- always put statis traps on all ways that will lead to ganging you so you can always escape in time
Goals before middle game ends:
Set A
make haste on getting  for having alot more dmg to bomb sites and defending base after youve finished agha go on veil of discord  and use it whenenemys are pushing use veil before you activate the remote bobms for high dmg value
- defend at least 2 lane towers from dyng for 15 min
- do not die anymore unless deny is necesarry
Set B
do not waste money on aghanin because it doesnt help you do more dmg to towers and so it doesnt help you push,
make orchid to boost your mana regen capaylty
- finish the sec and third tower on your lane if you cant manage try destroyng from 4-5 towers on the map
- dont die and keep the highest level and gold in the game
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Late game:
| Spoiler: | | | Skills wich you need to build in that exact order:
- in late just spam stats for both sets
How to act in late game:
Set A
- take knoledge from far where the enemy team is pushing and reinforce the tower but not near him on last towers always reinforce in front of them so they get 0 dmg from pushes
- do not make anymore bombins sites because you need to go out of the base and the enemy teams are hunting for lonely people like yourself
Set B
- try to destroy first lane of rax by this time if not posible go for all towers on map so your team gets gold boosted,
- when you cant push or you can propery protect yourself with statis traps try reinforcing your towers a lil to better defenidng
Goals in late game:
Set A
if enough money from only defending go for hex  and maybe suportive item mekasm/pipe/ancient jango of endurence/shiva
- try to not let enemys destroy towers
Set B
you can swap the arcane boots to travel boots for better pushing and try making pipe  and mekasm  to help your creep/team heroes on pushes
- destroy at least 1 lane of raxes
- go for all other lanes to destroy raxes or in 1 teamfight finish the game
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Bonus:
Bombing spots:
| Spoiler: | | | Wrong bombing spots:enemy knows about them/do not pass if they see you taken techies
Here are good bombing spots and where usualy the enemy heroes pass there or likely dont know about
Here are whre escape routes usualy go trhow
How to make a good bombing spot
Places for statis traps
Way of defending towers |
Last edited by Blood4u on 19/8/2011, 2:21 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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banebu
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| | Subject: Re: Squee Spleen and Spoon - Goblin techies | |
| Sorry Blood but this guide is waaay to long its more like a real guide then a one minute guide |
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| 28/7/2011, 1:11 pm | |
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Gelay
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| | Subject: Re: Squee Spleen and Spoon - Goblin techies | |
| this isn't done aren't it? |
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| 28/7/2011, 1:16 pm | |
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qassamzed
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| | Subject: Re: Squee Spleen and Spoon - Goblin techies | |
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its techies pros right ? how about replace it with useless against gems carrier + ranged hero |
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| 28/7/2011, 2:53 pm | |
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banebu
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| | Subject: Re: Squee Spleen and Spoon - Goblin techies | |
| Deny itself is actually a pro.. |
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| 28/7/2011, 2:57 pm | |
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Gelay
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| | Subject: Re: Squee Spleen and Spoon - Goblin techies | |
| techies isn't pretty useless in a teamfight..
1. can plant an Aoe level 1 finger of death
2. can deny themselves for the greater good( 1500 damage o.O)
3. plants 6 seconds aoe stun!
4. can block escape paths by planting L. mines. |
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| 28/7/2011, 3:09 pm | |
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| 28/7/2011, 3:11 pm | |
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Blood4u
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| | Subject: Re: Squee Spleen and Spoon - Goblin techies | |
| sorryguys guide not finished and ill put that hes very vulnerable at ranged with gems and doing my best spades this guide is for you hope u like it (sorry if its to long cant short it maybe u can help guys) |
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| 28/7/2011, 6:31 pm | |
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Blood4u
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| | Subject: Re: Squee Spleen and Spoon - Goblin techies | |
| | qassamzed wrote: |
its techies pros right ? how about replace it with useless against gems carrier + ranged hero |
geez god now i saw that ive put at cons my bad
i have rather low time |
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| 28/7/2011, 6:33 pm | |
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Gelay
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| | Subject: Re: Squee Spleen and Spoon - Goblin techies | |
| last part still not finished? well I'm gonna "mini" review your guide first of all, I like your humor but there are some mistakes on writing. this pretty depicts my techies both in set A and set B, good guidance on placing the bombs and its techniques. one of your con's are wrong: "techies is useless in teamfights" 1. can plant an Aoe level 1 finger of death 2. can deny themselves for the greater good( 1500 damage o.O) 3. plants 6 seconds aoe stun! 4. can block escape paths by planting L. mines. I love the bonuses. heres a double +rep coz this guide is for me <3 |
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| 20/8/2011, 2:17 am | |
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banebu
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| | Subject: Re: Squee Spleen and Spoon - Goblin techies | |
| Techies can be the most usefull hero in teamfights save asses like 5 of them are coming to gang and boom they just dissapear by his ult xD and not aoe finger of death but aoe multi finger of death cause it can insta kill full hps |
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| 20/8/2011, 10:50 am | |
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Blood4u
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| | Subject: Re: Squee Spleen and Spoon - Goblin techies | |
| yeah so ok im rmking the prons and cons but il modify in my way because he is usless in late game team fights but uber usefull that can make rampage with 1 skill if well placed
now i know i always got english mistakes ,im always bad at english so i cant properly rmk all mistakes but il try |
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| 20/8/2011, 11:22 am | |
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banebu
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| | Subject: Re: Squee Spleen and Spoon - Goblin techies | |
| He isnt useless in late game team fights wtf he plants a stun then suicides mass dmg and 6second stun is uber useful |
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| 20/8/2011, 12:11 pm | |
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Blood4u
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| | Subject: Re: Squee Spleen and Spoon - Goblin techies | |
| guys please you are missing the point of the stun it is a ward takes cast time to put has 2 sec fade time wich can be pwned by enemy team than another 2 sec to search for enemy so 4 sec for they to get 6 sec if theyre not mindless zombies than you will get the stun otherwise sucks that 1600 dmg in late will deal lesser than 400 because is mixed dmg meaning it gets reducde from both magical and armor |
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| 20/8/2011, 12:16 pm | |
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banebu
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| | Subject: Re: Squee Spleen and Spoon - Goblin techies | |
| Trust me i play techies much better then you have you ever had a 42/0 score on techies? no...
So the ward is uber help |
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| 20/8/2011, 12:21 pm | |
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