Venomancer

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Venomancer - Lesale Deathbringer

EARLY GAME

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MID GAME

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Items and skill you will need:

Reasoning for items/skill build:
ITEMS: By the start of the Mid game you will need to have your Dagger as this is your time to shine, you need to gang anything that is not an ally. You need to make your presence felt now. Next you are going to have to get your Maelstrom finished, since you already have your Gloves of haste all that is required is your Mithril hammer and the recipe to finish it off. Maelstrom is going to help you farm up the remaining items faster.
By the end of the Mid game phase you should be on your way to finishing your Aghanim's Scepter. Its vital now that you get your ulti stronger for the heroes who are now beefing up and trying to out tank you.

SKILLS: At level 8 it is a good idea for you to get a single level of Poison Ward for the map awareness it is going to provide you, when you move into a lane plant a ward in a spot where you could possibly be ambushed from. This single level of Plague ward will save your life time and time again. Max out your Poison sting next and then level up your Poison nova as soon as you hit level 11. After you have levelled Poison nova you need to start making your wards stronger so max them out next. Use them for visibility, map awareness and Pushing lanes when required. On level 15 level stats once and level 16 max Poison nova.

MID GAME STRAT:
As mentioned before, you now need to gang anything thats not an ally.
This is your time to shine, make your opponents suffer and cripple them for the late game.
IMPORTANT: The End game does not favour you. Its vital that you work with your team here, rack up kills and do not get cocky and play reckless. Kapeesh?

GOALS FOR END OF PHASE:

You should have your scepter by now.

You need to aim for one of two items:

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This is your choice. Black King Bar will provide you with HP, Extra Damage and the active Avatar ability. Shivas Guard will provide you with a greater mana pool, more armour, the active Arctic blast and the Freezing armour which reduces your enemies attack speed by -25 in an 1000 AoE radius. Shivas is 800 gold more expensive. I think this decision should be based on the team you are playing against. If you are against lots of disable you will need to buy Black King Bar for the Active ability that will provide you with magic immunity for 10 seconds and decrease by a second every time you use it until you reach 5 seconds.
Get Shivas Guard when you are not lined up against a team with heavy disable or against dps teams. Arctic Blast combined with Poison Nova works well, the additional 200 magic damage and 40% slow is great and your whole team benefits from it.

END GAME

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ADDITIONAL TIPS

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This is my first guide EVAR so be gentle please.
I hope this guide has helped you to play a decent game.
Please feel free to give constructive criticism and point out where i can improve.
Thanks for reading.

Rank 8 Reputation: 132 Join date: 2010-11-07 Posts: 2805

pure awesomeness! great guide and nice and personalized look. gj!

Rank 6 Reputation: 48 Join date: 2011-02-14 Posts: 1649

Thank you very much.
Was there anything you would have changed though regarding the item build?

Rank 4 Reputation: 23 Join date: 2010-12-25 Posts: 873

Nice guide Very Happy

Rank 6 Reputation: 41 Join date: 2010-12-24 Posts: 1872

Awesome guide Smile

Rank 6 Reputation: 48 Join date: 2011-02-14 Posts: 1649

Kick ass!!
Thanks y'all!!! 8D

Rank 8 Reputation: 132 Join date: 2010-11-07 Posts: 2805

what will be your next guide? Very Happy

Rank 6 Reputation: 48 Join date: 2011-02-14 Posts: 1649

Eh i thought about it... Want to maybe do Razor..will see.
Also have this one thing in mind... a Dual guide for a 2v2 game was inspired by a recent game i had last night or the night before. A guide for Dark seer and Omni... not sure if it will work, still want to put some more thought into it.
I have attached the replay of the game. Have a look the replay total length is about 22 mins have a look.
Check out 13mins and 30 seconds, my fav part in the game. Hope you like it.

http://www.playdota.com/forums/431418/omni-dark-seer/#post2226130

Sorry couldnt find away to upload it straight here.
Can any one tell me for future reference please.

Hope you like.

Rank 8 Reputation: 132 Join date: 2010-11-07 Posts: 2805

well, creating a guide for single move would be too exagurated imo. although the move (combo) itself is really nice.

btw, i saw wd shortcut for the first time. does it mean well done?

Rank 6 Reputation: 48 Join date: 2011-02-14 Posts: 1649

Yes WD means Well Done.
Im glad you like it but i think you misunderstand the nature of the guide. Not for it to be written specifically for a 5v5 match but for 2v2 games. eh i"m not sure if it will work but id like to give it a shot. Here on our Twilight server in SA we have tourney everyday besides for the obvious Fri, SAt and Sun days and there is only one day in the week where theres a 5v5 ... ok so theres also only one day of 2v2.. we get it alot, random people asking about the best e.g 3v3 strat. so maybe i can help out with that if i can do enough research/homework about a competitive 2v2 team or what ever.

Rank 8 Reputation: 132 Join date: 2010-11-07 Posts: 2805

hm, so you would not write only seer - omni combo in your guide, but you will cover all possible combos with various heroes for 3v3/2v2 game?

Rank 6 Reputation: 48 Join date: 2011-02-14 Posts: 1649

Maybe Not all, such a guide would only be finished next year if i had to do it.
Maybe just cover Omni and Dark seer....
eh im starting to think this is not going to work..... maybe there is some one else that will be able to do this better then i can, the goal is just to write a 2v2 guides or 3v3...
Mad

Rank 8 Reputation: 132 Join date: 2010-11-07 Posts: 2805

no no, it's nice idea, but it will need slight changes. making a guide for just those 2 heroes would be too much, but making a topic where you will add new combos from time to time would be excellent.

for example,

Combo 1 > Dark Seer & Omni

Description: This two heroes are excellent in lane-ing together. Omni can provide excellent healing support to both of you, while dark seer is here to become full time pusher or another supporter. Best move you can do with those two is to vacuum enemy heroes on Omni who will be ready to heal him self as soon as enemy heroes are in range.

Combo 2 > Dark Seer & Techies

Description: Many of you will see through this combo on the first look. Those two heroes can become extremely dangerous if played good. It's best that Seer tries to max his Vacuum ability as much as he can, while Techies needs to max his mines. Then simply Vacuum all those units and heroes on mines and watch fire and terror release, resulting in ultimate defeat.

and of course, we can add a poll where people can vote for best combo and so on. What do you think?

Rank 6 Reputation: 48 Join date: 2011-02-14 Posts: 1649

I really like that idea, what i had imagined had been a helova lot longer like a alt tab guide with items and so on, glad you made this suggestion, i think your idea will be perfect to be honest, short, sweet and to the point, you mention immediately what the people need to do or just how these heroes work together.
Poll is good idea.

Rank 8 Reputation: 132 Join date: 2010-11-07 Posts: 2805

Then, if you are interested, you can develop starting idea for look of the topic and add few combos. Smile